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By: Mark Joyner

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Both of these men have lived through 5 severe economic recessions and prospered lavishly throughout each.

While others were scrimping and saving these two men were living lavish champagne and caviar lifestyles in the world's most exotic locations.

How did this happen?

Over the next several posts in this series, I will not only tell you their stories but also how you can duplicate their success using some very simple techniques.

(Note that I said "simple" - not "easy" - these men did not get a lion's reward by doing lamb's work.)

Now look, the recession is no laughing matter so I don't mean to take this lightly. When I say these two men (both dear friends of mine - and together they have generated billions and billions in sales) laughed at the recession, I don't mean that they are laughing at you if you're going through tough times.

If you're in a real bind right now, I strongly recommend that you use something like the 7 Day Business Turnaround Kit immediately (it works).

If you're in no real hurry, and you want to learn how these men did billions in sales no matter what the economic tides washed in, then stay tuned to this series.

Hint: they are both trained in the same skill. Can you guess who they are? We have a Simpleology course coming soon based on the teachings of these two men (the next in our "Great Teachers" series). Jot your guess below. We'll select three of the people who give the right answer at random and give them free access to this course. Everyone who gets the right answer will get a prize valued at $97 US. Your answer must be time stamped no later than Thursday 28 August 11:59PM Eastern.

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Hmmm...

Ted Nicholas and...Jay Abraham?

They're Alex Mandossian and Joseph Sugarman...

All the best,

Carlos Juez
Guayaquil-Ecuador

Posted by: Carlos | August 22, 2008 2:38 PM

Ted Nicholas and Joe Sugarman

hmm... trained in philosophy maybe?

Posted by: Morgan | August 22, 2008 2:54 PM

It looks like we're talking about sales and marketing. My guess is Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer. Might the skill be copywriting?

Posted by: Bruce | August 22, 2008 3:43 PM

I would guess they were trained in sales or marketing?

Hope I'm right & get the prize! Thanks for the contest!

Hilary L.

Hi Mark,

Being a copywriter myself, of course I am biased - but I think that skill must be - copywriting!

PS: And thanks for your great content and for this opportunity

Amway Co-Founders: Jay Van Andel & Rich DeVos

Posted by: Justin Case | August 22, 2008 5:34 PM

Looks like Jay and Bill Bartman.

Joe Sugarman is top one...
Ted Nicholas is next...

Steve F.

Five recessions is a pretty long time so one has to be Ted Nicholas. Not sure about the other one. Dan Kennedy has been going for more than thirty years so I'll say him. Both are teachers and wordsmiths or copywriters as they are more commonly known. Confirmed by you saying generated billions in sales, so not necessarily made them for themselves.

Posted by: Tony C | August 22, 2008 5:48 PM

I think my other half is wrong. That's Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas. They are both copywriters and salesmen though.

Thanks for the competition

Sue

Posted by: Sue C | August 22, 2008 6:00 PM

Cool quiz idea Mark.

Top pic = Joe Sugarman

Bottom pic = Ted Nicholas

It's Jay Abrahama and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: Jackson T. | August 22, 2008 6:43 PM

Definitely Joseph Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

So many great people!My choice is Michael Masterson and Bill Glazer

Posted by: Terence Luffman | August 22, 2008 7:06 PM

I'm going with my gut and saying Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Neil D | August 22, 2008 7:08 PM

Jay Abraham and Joe Sugarman

they are good to hear once you give them a chance to talk

Posted by: anil | August 22, 2008 7:22 PM

One is Joe Sugarman and the other is Ted Nicholas...

Posted by: Daniel | August 22, 2008 7:31 PM

As a writer I cover a large variety6 of topics. I now tend to write more in the style of a copywriter. I like to punch up my topic by being creative but i am never satisfied .

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

I seen Ted Live in Auckland Last year and this dude is humble as a Dove. Loves life and his Wife. Great Model of Wealth and Relationship for everyone in Business Life

Ted You the Man

Desmond

I will pass on this one, as it is hard to guess.

Ted nicholas and Jay abraham

Posted by: JoAnne Parker | August 22, 2008 8:28 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Ted | August 22, 2008 8:36 PM

Hmmm....Ted Nicholas & Dan Kennedy?

Looking forward to the series Mark.

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

My guess is copywriting is the skill and the 2 geniuses are Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Rhoda

Posted by: Rhoda | August 22, 2008 9:09 PM

I'm going with Jay Abraham and Dan Kennedy.

Posted by: Jon | August 22, 2008 9:18 PM

Joe Vitale and Bob Proctor...just a very wild, probably out in left field, guess.

Posted by: Heather | August 22, 2008 9:50 PM

Does Jay Abraham live a lavish life-style? I don't know but he has been around long enough to have prospered through several recessions, so he would be my first pick as one if the "The Two Men Who Laughed at the Recession" ... Donald Trump fits the profile of lavish living so I'm taking a punt on him :)

D'Arcy Mayo

I believe they are Barrack Obama and Larry Sinclair.

Posted by: Nick | August 22, 2008 10:19 PM

John Carlton, Jay Abraham

Gary Halbert and Joe Sugarman

Here's my guess:

Top Picture: Joseph Sugarman

Bottom Picture: Ted Nicholas

Yew Heng
A little guy From Singapore
http://www.embraceinternetwealth.com

Posted by: Yew Heng | August 22, 2008 10:25 PM

Ted Nicholas & Jay Abraham?

Posted by: JoEl Ravarra | August 22, 2008 10:47 PM

it is kinda obvious if you know about it!

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.
Both work in the market as extremely successful sellers....

Posted by: chiara petrachi | August 22, 2008 10:57 PM

Dan Kennedy and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: Waldo Wesley | August 22, 2008 11:27 PM

Ted Nicholas & Joe Sugarman

Posted by: Monique | August 22, 2008 11:42 PM

joseph sugarman and alex mandossian. both great marketers. Joe sold millions of blue blocker sunglasses and alex a great information marketer

Posted by: graham | August 22, 2008 11:58 PM

john cummata and warren buffet?

Posted by: raghuram | August 23, 2008 12:20 AM

1. Joe Sugarman.
2. Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Erik | August 23, 2008 12:46 AM

Jay Abraham and Joe Sugarman

Posted by: Rick | August 23, 2008 12:56 AM

Copywriting is the skill.
Dan Kennedy and Ted Nichols is a guess.

Posted by: Tim | August 23, 2008 1:47 AM

These are the pictures of 2 Copywriting Ninjas: Joe "The Mail Order Maverick" Sugarman (on top) & 'Word Jedi Knight' Ted Nicholas right under...

Ted Nicholas & Joe Sugarman
both great marketers.

Posted by: Richard J | August 23, 2008 2:23 AM

Joseph Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Dennis | August 23, 2008 5:07 AM

My guess is: Ted Nicholas and John Sugarman.

Posted by: Panto | August 23, 2008 5:08 AM

Great post & quiz idea!
My guess:
Top pic = Joe Sugarman, once called the "Mail Order Maverick" by The New York Times

Bottom pic = Ted Nicholas,
Copywriting Expert


It's Joe Sugarman & Ted Nicholas.

The skills they both utilised to full effect were copywriting & marketing.

Posted by: Peter Cairney | August 23, 2008 6:18 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: Vidar | August 23, 2008 6:26 AM

Difficult - Old photo's?

So .....

Jay Abraham and
Ted Nicholas

Both copywriters -
(word smiths) and more.

Posted by: R Gee | August 23, 2008 6:54 AM

Warren Buffet.
Ted Nicholas

Posted by: moses ademu | August 23, 2008 7:51 AM

Joe Sugarman Who is a direct response marketing genius

and
Ted Nicholas One of the greatest copywriters who ever lived

(apart from Gary Halbert in my opinion!)

Thanks for the great info and offer. Top Quality as always!
I think the two men are Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas, 2 of the alltime best in the biz.Thanks for keeping Gary´s work up and out there...miss his wit, and genius every day.

Sugarman/Nicholas

Posted by: Shubie Parks | August 23, 2008 10:08 AM

The two people are Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Dan Kennedy & Bill Glazer

Posted by: Becky | August 23, 2008 10:49 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas?

Posted by: Helena Martins | August 23, 2008 11:31 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: David | August 23, 2008 11:49 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: David | August 23, 2008 11:49 AM

Hi. I'm convinced it's Jay Abraham and Ted Nicholas.

Looking forward to the rest of this blog series!

Joe Sugerman
Ted Nicholas

(An important and the very first lesson in 'Catalog of Esoteric Psychological Lore')
;)

Abe Lincoln & George Washington :)

well, how about Warren Buffett and General Michael Aquino. I'm pretty sure they've fared splendidly through everything, each in his own way.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2008 2:23 PM

Jay Abraham and Clayton MacPeace

Posted by: Damon | August 23, 2008 3:16 PM

I also believe the two to be Joe Sugerman and Ted Nicholas. I seem to recall that both had a military intellegence background before moving into marketing, (much like someone else dear to our hearts here.)

Posted by: Jon Graznak | August 23, 2008 3:22 PM

I think they are Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: Kathleen | August 23, 2008 3:56 PM

I say the top guy is Joe Sugarman.. and the bottom guy is Ted N.

I don't who the 2 guys are, but my proposal on the skill they possessed is:

Building a responsive list of customers.

They then built a strong relationship with that list that would allow them to help their customers during the recessions.

I'm with Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas because of the time frame. My first guess had Dan Kennedy in there.

Posted by: Andy V. | August 23, 2008 5:23 PM

The skill is copywriting and for sure number 1 is Ted Nicholas (my original mentor), but the second is up for grabs. I'll say Dan Kennedy, but it could easily be Halbert, Sugarman, Abraham(my other early mentor) or Collier.

I would guess Michael Masterson and Jay Abraham. Thanks for the try.

Posted by: Sharon | August 23, 2008 5:55 PM

Jay Abraham ,Joseph Sugarman
Just a quess.But they are Jewish right? Amazing people. Jay Abraham has to be one of them but he is a one off.Awesome. Impossible to follow him.;).

Donald Trump and Robert Kiosaki

Posted by: Jenn | August 23, 2008 10:18 PM

I believe they're Joe Sugerman and Ted Nicholas

May I also say : Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas ?

Posted by: Alain Massé | August 23, 2008 11:35 PM

Ted Nicholas
Herschell Gordon Lewis

I would say Ted Nicholas and Joe Sugarman

Posted by: William Moran | August 24, 2008 7:57 AM


Ted Nicholas
Warren Buffet

Posted by: DEBANIK | August 24, 2008 10:16 AM

Sounds like it could be Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki...

Well... I think these are Jay Abraham and ted Nicholas.

Jos. Sugarman & Ted Nicholas

Posted by: markshusted | August 24, 2008 7:59 PM

Joe Sugarman for me and Ted Nicholas..great presenters..

Hi Mark,

The 2 gentlemen must be Ted Nicholas & Joe Sugarman.

Posted by: Simon S | August 24, 2008 11:27 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas, Thanks for all the animation,
Michael

I think they are Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Dinah Ash | August 25, 2008 9:05 AM

If they've been around a long time and "have generated billions and billions in sales" - well they didn't do that all for themselves, per the language. yes, I would agree that it would be the pair of Ted Nicholas & Dan Kennedy. They are famous copywriters and sales generators. - And "generated billions and billions".

Posted by: George T | August 25, 2008 10:04 AM

Mark,

Copywriting is the skill.

Both Ted Nicholas & Joe Sugarman are masters and highly successful at writing persuasive copy.

Plus they're both friend of yours.

Michael

Posted by: Michael | August 25, 2008 12:10 PM

Tedd Nicholas and Dan Kennedy

big jason

It's Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas!

Posted by: Mark | August 25, 2008 5:23 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: barb | August 25, 2008 7:08 PM

Joseph Sugarman

Chairman, JS&A Group, Inc., BluBlocker Corp. and DelStar Publishing, Inc.

Try before you buy ted nicholas

Posted from the Netherlands
friendly greetings to you all,

Posted by: eddy blom | August 25, 2008 7:14 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas?

Gotta go with Joe Sugarman and Ted Nichols since they were included in the WOMT bonus section. Both presentations were dynamic and exceptional and both worth the price of admission! Thanks Mark. Keep it coming.

Posted by: Alan Steacy | August 25, 2008 9:58 PM

Joe Sugarman
Ted Nichols

Posted by: asha | August 26, 2008 12:28 AM

My vote goes to

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Ted Nicholas and Joe Sugarman

Posted by: Pat Rigsby | August 26, 2008 7:21 AM

Let's go with somebody different:
1. Sam Walton
2. Michael Dell

Posted by: Winston | August 26, 2008 11:45 AM

Ted Nicholas and Joe Sugarman

Posted by: R | August 26, 2008 3:57 PM

Dan Kennedy and Bill Glazer

Hi Mark

I'll also have to say Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

More importantly, thanks for the great lesson on how to get a heap of people to post comments!

Posted by: Tom Gajic | August 26, 2008 7:31 PM

I don't know who these men might be but if I had to guess I'd say they're salesmen.

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nichols

Posted by: Garrett | August 27, 2008 4:34 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Miles | August 27, 2008 10:54 AM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

Posted by: Mykola K. | August 27, 2008 11:49 AM

Ted Nicholas and Joseph Sugarman

Posted by: Tiffany Allen | August 27, 2008 12:06 PM

My vote goes to

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas.

By the way, I have seen Ted Nicholas at an event and he was absolutely amazing and so motivating. A really lovely guy.

All the best to everyone,

Nina Crawford
http://www.howtostudyexams.com

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Matthew | August 27, 2008 1:36 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas and the skill would be copywriting

I have to say Ted Nicholas and Joe Sugarman. I mean, it could be Mark Joyner and Joe Vitale wearing wigs but I doubt it. No, it's Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas, also known as the billion dollar man. Great lesson too by the way.

Peace and Love

Great idea for a quiz Mark. Now you want us to think too!

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas seems like a good guess?

Sincerely,
John Adams

Joseph Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Richard | August 28, 2008 12:43 PM

Joe Sugarman and Ted Nicholas

Posted by: Keith | August 28, 2008 5:44 PM

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